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Posted by Michael Merritt   |   13 comments

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by Daniella Zalcman/Mir Hossein Moussavi by Mardetanha

I say reportedly because, as far as I’m aware, most of the news we’re hearing is coming from the Iran state-run press.  On a quick note before I start, if there was ever a poster child for reasons to reject U.S. media bailouts, this would be it.

Anyway, the supposed news is that incumbent president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is leading the vote count, by a huge amount.  CNN’s latest report says 65.7% of the vote for the uber-conservative president versus 31.4% for his closest challenger, reformist Mir Hossein Moussavi.  Unfortunately, these numbers have changed little since I started tracking them this afternoon, and unless some hugely populous areas have given all their votes to Moussavi, I don’t foresee it changing by the time all the votes are in.

That is, of course, if the election hasn’t been rigged.

Now, I understand the incumbency factor in elections is usually strong, in the U.S. at least.  That’s why incumbent politicians nearly always get re-elected, unless there’ve made some massive screwup, or a prominent figure in their party has become very unpopular.  However, and maybe this is showing my naivety of Iranian politics, but 65% is massive.  The only explanations for such a lead are: 1) Ahmadinejad is more popular than widely believed in the West, 2) A lot of people have stayed home, or 3) It’s been rigged.  You simply don’t see these kinds of numbers in any functioning democracy.  For which Iran, considering its theocratic nature, “functioning democracy” is a matter of question, not fact.

If you take the numbers provided by the state media as gospel, it makes you wonder exactly what’s going on in Iran.  I don’t believe for a second that Ahmadinejad is as popular as he was in 2005.  His country is in economic turmoil, with oil profits having plummeted with the onset of all the trouble.  We’ve seen what’s happened in the U.S. and Europe, where liberal and conservative politicans respectively have swept elections all across the board.  At least partially this is due to voters blaming the “other guy” (or gal).  All that in countries that don’t base most of their economies off an increasingly scarce natural resource.  The idea that Ahmadinejad could have gone from weathering criticism from his constituents over dropping oil revenues and thus dropping economic conditions, only to pull off a landslide, is absurd.

To my mind, that leaves only options 2 and 3.  Yet, and again I can only go on the official word (which might be disputable), 70% of voters have turned out.  Keep in mind that this is more voters than turned out for the U.S. elections in November, which was about 62%.  So, the idea that a lot of voters protested the election is also absurd, assuming the official numbers are true.  Normally I might say that demographics might affect the vote.  For example if younger voters (a key Moussavi group) failed to get out, that would turn the election in Ahmadinejad’s favor, but reports I’ve read indicate this also isn’t the case.  So either the reports are wrong, or the youth support for Moussavi wasn’t that strong.

Or…

We find ourselves at the last option.  For this, I’ve going to wait to see what the election observers say.  I don’t expect the world’s cleanest election out of Iran, but if international observers say it was mostly fair, any accusations of rigging will be slashed at the knees.  However, with all the things I outlined above, it’s awfully tempting to think this.

So, I’m going to wait for all the votes to be in and for observers to chime in on the state of the actual election day before going further on this.  We shall see, but I’m not getting my hopes up for a last minute magical burst forward for Moussavi.

  1. Posted by Interested
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    Interested
    That is, of course, if the election hasn’t been rigged.
    Is ACORN in the country?
  2. Posted by Moe
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    Moe Great article. You are a good writer. I like that you only bring forward the possibility of negative impacts and avoid trashing the country and drawing any early conclusions. You are a very good wirter. I wish the rest of the media could follow your example. You are a professional. Keep it up.
  3. Posted by Sij
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    Sij Great writing..I believe it is time Iran got a leader who considers world peace equally important as the nation's right to nuclear research. The day of reckoning is here. The whole world is waiting along with Obama. Who do you think Iran need more as a President, the hardliner or the ex-premier?
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    Suburban Guerrilla » Blog Archive » Did Ahmedinejad Steal the Election? [...] Gee, I don’t know. Which one was the CIA backing? [...]
  5. Posted by Polimom
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    Polimom Michael -- Great post. Sums up the scenarios pretty well (at least, it aligns with how I'm seeing things, which must make it right, eh? LOL!) My understanding, though, is that Iran unfortunately doesn't permit international election monitors. While cries of 'coup' are perhaps premature and unlikely, this isn't going to be pretty.
  6. Posted by jebuff
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    jebuff Conservative incumbent stokes paranoia, inflames populist national pride with incendiary rhetoric, lambastes opponent as "unpatriotic". And wins reelection. Oh dear, Iran. Couldn't you find a better example than America 2004? Iranian opposition now looking for young, charismatic "anti-fear" candidate for 2014, middle name preference, "Bush".
  7. Michael Merritt
    My understanding, though, is that Iran unfortunately doesn’t permit international election monitors.
    That's a pity, then. How do you expect to be taken seriously if you won't let people monitor your elections? Jebuff: We got a new president almost six months ago. Can you give it a rest?
  8. Posted by jebuff
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    jebuff Please re-read my post. I think we're on the same side of the fence.
  9. Posted by Interested
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    Interested
    Michael Merritt :
    My understanding, though, is that Iran unfortunately doesn’t permit international election monitors.
    That’s a pity, then. How do you expect to be taken seriously if you won’t let people monitor your elections?
    Why should they? If outside countries or worse - the UN tried to monitor US elections - they would rightfully be told to go pound sand (as Carter was in 04). Now if they wanted to prove it was free and fair than the government can request it. If not than it's their choice and subsequent opinions about the process.
  10. Posted by Moe
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    Moe Exactly. It would be like admitting that you cannot handle it. That you are a third world country. It not something you would normally do, to ask for help. Also, Iran doesn't want to leave the possibility of allowing the UN to divert attention and influence the nation. They don't trust the UN. How can they? It is compromised by nations that oppose Iran. You just don't take that risk. To leave the security of your nation in someone else's hands. The UN could be corrupt and influenced by outside forces. I mean in Lebanon, votes where actually payed for, but the observers there did not mention those things. The western media just kept quite about that. 1 billion american dollars where spent for such things by the "western friendly" alliance. Thats could just be the 12% margin that made them win. What I have noticed in the western media is that Moussavi started to get popular around the 2 june. Before that there was almost no compition. He was almost unknown. The western world made him soon the favourite. But people generally do no switch that fast. Obama took 1.5 years to get a 50% lead. As of April 2008, Hillary was still the most popular one and they had been going on since september 2007. The western media has hyped these statements to become truth. The supporters that have been demonstrating is nothing in amounts of significane. From what I could see it was nothing. A group of 1000 people, if not less could do those things. Out of 34% thats not hard to gather. Same pictures have been used all over the world. Moussavi even went out and declared victory before the results was out. He seems to have been determined to create what has now been created. The western media has helped him allot in hyping this, but it doesn't make it more true the more times you repeat it. As far as if it was rigged or not, I do not know. I am an engineer and I do not make claims of anything I do not know about, but I do get irritated that the western media lacks professionalism.This one being an exception. Tomorrow is monday, and Moussavi has called for big demonstrations. As I said earlier. 34% out of 40milj + extras, it not hard to create something big. Soon the rest of the 62% is going to believe it as well. But it doesn't make it more real. Iran needs to go out and provide some evidence. It doesn't owe anyone that, but just to create calm in the country, it would probably be wise. I am not sure this would convince anyone anyway. Btw, what happen in Florida 2000 ? :O
  11. Michael Merritt Moe, I've tried to explain how I see the situation, which you seem to recognize. The lack in popularity (which admittedly may have been trumped up in our media, but I don't know for sure) over the failing economy. I pointed out how it's affected elections in other countries and supranationals (U.S., U.K. and E.U.). Surely it's had an effect in Iran as well, and perhaps more pronounced. As for the protesters, I've seen reports of over between 100,000 and a million, but I could accept that there's some bloating of them by those with agendas. Going to write another post on this tonight.
  12. Posted by Moe
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    Moe Great... looking forward. Not sure how I be able to find it though. There has been some action since my last message and my call for evidence seems to have made a difference, LOL! Lets see how this recount plays out over the coming weeks. If there has been a fraud from Ahmadinejad side, I am not sure that Khameini knew about it, but even if he did, he will most likely not take part in going down with him. If the recount still isn't believed (because of allegations of afterwards tamepering with those ballot boxes) its still very unlikley that there will be a re-election. Either the ballot boxes cannot be proven to be wrongly counted the first time, it comes that there has been tampering and Ahmadinejad probably won't take part in the re-election or it's obvious but the cover up continues. The question is if it turns out to be a fraud from Ahmadinejad where he might end up, in prison or in exile. Perhaps staying in Russia might be a good idea for now.
  13. Posted by Moe
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    Moe I found this : http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/16/iran.election.questions/ "Ballen said his organization, Terror Free Tomorrow, surveyed 1,001 Iranians in mid-May. That poll found Ahmadinejad leading the four-candidate field with 34 percent support, while Moussavi trailed with 14 percent. The remaining two candidates, former parliament speaker Mehdi Karrubi and onetime Revolutionary Guards commander Mohsen Rezaie, drew 2 percent and 1 percent." Its fully possible that he did win. Like I said earlier. I noticed that Moussavi started to get popular very late in the race. This seems to back it, even though the polling was very unsecure. / Moe