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Most regular readers of Poligazette will know by now that I’m a Muslim, specially drawn to Sufi Islam (which doesn’t make me very popular among fundamentalists, to put it mildly). Fortunately, any time I’ve mentioned this fact on this site, I’ve received (virtually) no negative feedback. Most consider this a private matter, and therefore of little or no concern politically. As I found out last week, however, not everybody necessarily agrees.

Professor Hans Jansen and I were contributors to a new Dutch blog called Dagelijkse Standaard. He was the resident Arabic, Middle East and Islam specialist, I the American politics expert. I focused, and continue to focus, mainly on America (with the odd excursion into Turkish politics, another field of interest of mine). During one of my conversations with Jansen – I helped him publish his posts, insert links, etc. I even phoned him a couple of times to help him out with technical problems - I mentioned the fact that I am a Muslim. He responded by insulting me (he wondered, among other things how an intelligent young man like myself could “join the side that wants to destroy the West” – a pretty blatant example of prejudice, nay discrimination). As I understand it, he then emailed the owner of the site Joshua Livestro that he had to think about whether or not it was possible for him to continue defending freedom of speech on one website with a Muslim, seemingly no matter how liberal that Muslim may be.

Regular readers will probably strike this as rather odd. After all, I defend freedom in all its forms constantly and my focus is on politics, not on theological issues. In the end, after having communicated with Livestro a couple of times, Jansen said he would indeed stop writing for Dagelijkse Standaard altogether. Jansen himself says the reason for his sudden resignation was nor is my personal faith, but Livestro’s attitude towards Jansen after the first received the latter’s “have to think about” e-mail.

Whatever the case, Jansen is quite a well known character in The Netherlands. He’s an emeritus professor who advises Geert Wilders and other politicians on Islamic affairs and who is a regular guest commentator on TV on all issues related to Islam. This makes it virtually inevitable that his departure will receive some (perhaps but hopefully not a lot of) media attention here in Holland. What will be, will be. I just want to make it absolutely clear to any visitors from The Netherlands who were drawn to this site as a result of this affair that this blog nor my public appearances are about my personal faith. I’m a secularist. I look at politics from a secular, more politically conservative perspective. This post will therefore be my first and only public comment on the subject. I am an expert on American politics, not a theologian. Nor am I a spokesman for this group or another. No, I don’t understand the problem one could possibly have a problem with me being a liberal, anti-fundamentalist, open-minded Muslim who actively defends Western values like freedom of speech, separation of church and state, and equality of men and women, either. Perhaps it has something to do with the view expressed by people like Wilders that Islam is “a fascist ideology”: it’s only a small step from this to “all Muslims are fascists,” as a commenter at DS proves in reaction to Livestro’s announcement of Jansen’s departure. (For American readers, the reader writes: “A logical decision. If you use words to fight against national-socialism you don’t join forces with a national-socialist either. Someone can then claim that this national-socialist is “a good person” and doesn’t accept the most radical aspects of national-socialism, but such a defense isn’t exactly convincing.”) It’s disheartening to read, but I don’t feel the need to respond to such comments.

This is all I have to say about this subject. From now on, I want the focus again to be on (American) politics. I don’t find it – Islam, me being Muslim and / or the exact reason for Jansen’s resignation – a particularly interesting debate. This is purely a ‘yes I know this happened’ post and nothing more.

Now we’ve got that out of the way, lets talk politics again as we’re used to do.

UPDATE

It seems that some Dutch readers (via email) don’t seem to know where I stand on a variety of subjects. Therefore this update. As said, I will not add any posts to this debate. It’s not of interest to me, nor do I wish to be the subject of debate. Ideas not people matter.

In defense of Geert Wilders

Fury in Holland over Wilders Persecution The entire column written for Pajamas Media can be read here

Anti-AK Parti

Turkey’s Erdogan: Israel should be barred from UN

The AK Parti’s Agenda in Turkey: Islamization

Turkey’s Erdogan going Anti-Semitic

Trouble in Turkey: Army holds emergency Erkenegon meeting with Erdogan

Turkey’s Erdogan showing his true colors

Anti-Ahmadinejad

Ahmadinejad: Iran Will Continue to Support Hamas

Ahmadinejad: Israel will disappear soon

Pentagon: Iran will soon be able to develop nuclear weapons

ElBaradei: Iran can have nuclear weapons within six months – one year

Talking to Iran?

What to do about Iran?

Iran subject to sanctions

Iran women: what about us?

Iran’s murderous Valentine cards

Anti-barbarism / extremism:

United 93

Islamic TV Channel Owner Admits Beheading Wife

Killing in the name of Islam

Hamas and Palestinian civilians

Islamic law and violence

Killing civilians in war (also category pro-Israel)

Kurdish girl suffers sexual abuse, mutilation

Anti-Taliban etc. pro-secular Pakistani government / hawk

Mumbai massacre British Muslims involved

Pakistan gives up tribal region

India Pakistan troubles – let the U.S. take care of it

Anti-Hamas pro-Israel anti anti-Semitism

Some truths on the war between Hamas and Israel

Kid’s camp in Palestine

Renown Arab thinker: Hamas brings disaster upon Palestinians

Hamas and Palestinian civilians

Sure, why not, send more aid to Gaza

Unacceptable (German police taken down Israeli flag)

School bombing affair

War in Gaza causes outbursts of anti-Semitism in Europe

Hizbullah stronger and bolder

Eygptian president speaks out: Hamas has to lose

Nuclear weapons are a blessing

Israel invades Gaza

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  2. Posted by Wlad
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    Wlad This is good publicity. Now you see that Wilders are not only against extremist muslims, but against all muslims (racism). I also think it's strange Hans jansen is willing to work with conservative christians who have the same ideas as extremist muslims.
  3. Posted by Armand Sağ
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    Armand Sağ I guess freedom of speech and equality of all humans doesn't apply when you are muslim.
  4. Michael Merritt A popular online forum texticon will work well here: :rolleyes: Sorry if this is blunt, but if the professor is so offended to work on the site with someone like you, Michael, then I say good riddance.
  5. Posted by Cindy
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    Cindy This proves how wrong Hans Jansen & Geert Wilders are and how we (The Dutch) don't need them to tell us what a fascist ideology the Islam is. We are smart enough to see Holland won't end up being a Sharia state and we already know the difference between normal Muslims and radicals (it's just that some people are much rather blind and full of hate) and I hope the people are smart enough to see who you are. I have read most of your articles, always knew you are a Muslim and admire you. Don't let this thing get to you!