2012 May 21 |
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Via Outside the Beltway comes this:

In a closely watched case involving rendition and torture, a lawyer for the Obama administration seemed to surprise a panel of federal appeals judges on Monday by pressing ahead with an argument for preserving state secrets originally developed by the Bush administration.

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“Is there anything material that has happened” that might have caused the Justice Department to shift its views, asked Judge Mary M. Schroeder, an appointee of President Jimmy Carter, coyly referring to the recent election.

“No, your honor,” Mr. Letter replied.

Judge Schroeder asked, “The change in administration has no bearing?”

Once more, he said, “No, Your Honor.” The position he was taking in court on behalf of the government had been “thoroughly vetted with the appropriate officials within the new administration,” and “these are the authorized positions,” he said.

As James Joyner explains, ‘[t]his will, I wager, not be the last time that the change in administration has no bearing.  Being responsible for national security is rather different from commenting on it from the outside and entering office tends to make presidents conform to their new role.’

He adds: ‘Obama’s president now.  He has ostensibly discontinued the policy of “extraordinary rendition,” the extent of which we will likely never know.  But he’s neither going to compromise national security secrets nor give away potentially useful presidential powers now that he’s in the White House.  I’m surprised anyone’s surprised by that.’

Does Obama break his promises? Yes.

Hypocritical? Sure?

Was it to be expected? Yup.

No surprises here, at least not for those of us with any sense of realism.

  1. Posted by Interested
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    Interested
    Also, I would say to Michael that perhaps a President doing exactly what I said he would do (adjust his rhetoric to deal with reality) should be praised rather than condemned. Would you prefer that Presidents remained committed to unrealistic positions even after those positions become exposed as clearly impractical and non-responsive to the real-world problems they face once in office? Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, Michael. This partisan game of crying “hypocrisy” every time someone does the intelligent thing by adjusting to new information is stupid, stupid, stupid. All it does is create a partisan catch-22 — if a person you disagree with sticks with bad information, you get to accuse them of being dogmatic and if they change their position due to new information you get to accuse them of hypocrisy. It may be fun in a child-like way akin to a playground game conducted by bullies, but it is not worthy of a serious policy analyst.
    At some point in time, it becomes evident that these "does the intelligent thing by adjusting to new information" is really just exposing a candidate (with little substance but much skill) that manipulated the masses for votes.
  2. Posted by Jay_C
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    Jay_C "Not to say this particular bill is pragmatic in a true sense, but I think you’re mistaking pragmatism for centrism" Ok, perhaps not, (I didn't fully explain what I meant) Centrism and Pragmatism in practice (not just theory) are not apples and oranges. My point being that in order to correctly pick where all the "stuff that works" is depends on your point of view. Hence it is important that to be a real pragmatist, you need to be more of a centrist in action, not just words.
  3. Posted by ChrisWWW
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    ChrisWWW Jay_C, That assumes worthy ideas on both sides of the political spectrum :-)